Group: netwin.surgemail
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] POPing from within
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 09:02:38 +1300

The certificate looks sub optimal, according to chrome...

The certificate for this site expires in 2017 or later, and the certificate chain contains a certificate signed using SHA-1.

So I think you need to get a new certificate from comodo using the new sha-256 option (or whatever is current) and hopefully that will fix smtp/pop too.

††† ChrisP.



On 6/12/2016 3:59 p.m., surgemail-list@netwinsite.com wrote:

I canít see to find any variation of information that will allow Hotmail (and I also think live.com and outlook.com) to POP off our Surgemail server.† The POP3 part is part, I just get different errors for smtp.premieronline.net

I believe our SSL stuff is good (https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers/smtp.premieronline.net and https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.com/?url=smtp.premieronline.net%3A587).†

Any ideas?† Anyone else have this working?

Frank



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*Matthew Beckwell* - V.P. - Network Operations
Advanced Integrated Technologies
Office: +
*1.952.829.5511 x204*E-Mail: matthewb@aitech.net


On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:02 PM, surgemail-support <
surgemail-support@netwinsite.com> wrote:

> The certificate looks sub optimal, according to chrome...
>
> The certificate for this site expires in 2017 or later, and the
> certificate chain contains a certificate signed using SHA-1.
>
> So I think you need to get a new certificate from comodo using the new
> sha-256 option (or whatever is current) and hopefully that will fix
> smtp/pop too.
>
>     ChrisP.
>
>
>
> On 6/12/2016 3:59 p.m., surgemail-list@netwinsite.com wrote:
>
> I can=E2=80=99t see to find any variation of information that will allow =
Hotmail
> (and I also think live.com and outlook.com) to POP off our Surgemail
> server.  The POP3 part is part, I just get different errors for
> smtp.premieronline.net
>
>
>
> I believe our SSL stuff is good (https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers/smtp.
> premieronline.net and https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.
> com/?url=3Dsmtp.premieronline.net%3A587).
>
>
>
> Any ideas?  Anyone else have this working?
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank
>
>
>

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:02 PM, surgemail-su=
pport <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:surgemail-support@netwinsite.=
com" target=3D"_blank">surgemail-support@netwinsite.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    <p>The certificate looks sub optimal, according to chrome...<br>
    </p>
    <p><span>The certificate
        for this site expires in 2017 or later, and the certificate
        chain contains a certificate signed using SHA-1.</span></p>
    <p><span>So I think you
        need to get a new certificate from comodo using the new sha-256
        option (or whatever is current) and hopefully that will fix
        smtp/pop too. <br>
      </span></p>
    <p><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ChrisP.</span></p>
    <p><span><br>
      </span></p>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"m_-7155763052085241947moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/2016 3:59 =
p.m.,
      <a class=3D"m_-7155763052085241947moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"m=
ailto:surgemail-list@netwinsite.com" target=3D"_blank">surgemail-list@netwi=
nsite.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div class=3D"m_-7155763052085241947WordSection1">
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can=E2=80=99t see to find any variation of
          information that will allow Hotmail (and I also think <a href=3D"=
http://live.com" target=3D"_blank">live.com</a>
          and <a href=3D"http://outlook.com" target=3D"_blank">outlook.com<=
/a>) to POP off our Surgemail server.=C2=A0 The POP3
          part is part, I just get different errors for
          <a href=3D"http://smtp.premieronline.net" target=3D"_blank">smtp.=
premieronline.net</a><u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe our SSL stuff is good (<a href=3D"=
https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers/smtp.premieronline.net" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://ssl-tools.net/<wbr>mailservers/smtp.<wbr>premieronline.net</a>
          and
          <a href=3D"https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.com/?url=3Dsmtp.premieron=
line.net%3A587" target=3D"_blank">https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.<wbr>com/?ur=
l=3Dsmtp.premieronline.<wbr>net%3A587</a>).=C2=A0
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas?=C2=A0 Anyone else have this worki=
ng?
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</u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Frank<u></u><u></u></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

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From: Matthew Beckwell <matthewb@aitech.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 18:17:18 -0600

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For what it's worth:
My SHA-256 (Also Comodo, but 3-SAN rather than wildcard) certificate
installed on SurgeMail also yields an error when attempting to setup the
SMTP/submission server via hotmail.  I wish they'd offer a little more
detail on why...

~Matthew


On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:02 PM, surgemail-support <
surgemail-support@netwinsite.com> wrote:

> The certificate looks sub optimal, according to chrome...
>
> The certificate for this site expires in 2017 or later, and the
> certificate chain contains a certificate signed using SHA-1.
>
> So I think you need to get a new certificate from comodo using the new
> sha-256 option (or whatever is current) and hopefully that will fix
> smtp/pop too.
>
>     ChrisP.
>
>
>
> On 6/12/2016 3:59 p.m., surgemail-list@netwinsite.com wrote:
>
> I can=E2=80=99t see to find any variation of information that will allow =
Hotmail
> (and I also think live.com and outlook.com) to POP off our Surgemail
> server.  The POP3 part is part, I just get different errors for
> smtp.premieronline.net
>
>
>
> I believe our SSL stuff is good (https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers/smtp.
> premieronline.net and https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.
> com/?url=3Dsmtp.premieronline.net%3A587).
>
>
>
> Any ideas?  Anyone else have this working?
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">For what it&#39;s worth:<div>My SHA-256 (Also Comodo, but =
3-SAN rather than wildcard) certificate installed on SurgeMail also yields =
an error when attempting to setup the SMTP/submission server via hotmail.=
=C2=A0 I wish they&#39;d offer a little more detail on why...</div><div><br=
></div><div>~Matthew</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:02 PM, surgemai=
l-support <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:surgemail-support@netwins=
ite.com" target=3D"_blank">surgemail-support@netwinsite.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    <p>The certificate looks sub optimal, according to chrome...<br>
    </p>
    <p><span>The certificate
        for this site expires in 2017 or later, and the certificate
        chain contains a certificate signed using SHA-1.</span></p>
    <p><span>So I think you
        need to get a new certificate from comodo using the new sha-256
        option (or whatever is current) and hopefully that will fix
        smtp/pop too. <br>
      </span></p>
    <p><span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ChrisP.</span></p>
    <p><span><br>
      </span></p>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"m_2870181607026898664moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/2016 3:59 p=
..m.,
      <a class=3D"m_2870181607026898664moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"ma=
ilto:surgemail-list@netwinsite.com" target=3D"_blank">surgemail-list@netwin=
site.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div class=3D"m_2870181607026898664WordSection1">
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can=E2=80=99t see to find any variation of
          information that will allow Hotmail (and I also think <a href=3D"=
http://live.com" target=3D"_blank">live.com</a>
          and <a href=3D"http://outlook.com" target=3D"_blank">outlook.com<=
/a>) to POP off our Surgemail server.=C2=A0 The POP3
          part is part, I just get different errors for
          <a href=3D"http://smtp.premieronline.net" target=3D"_blank">smtp.=
premieronline.net</a><u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe our SSL stuff is good (<a href=3D"=
https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers/smtp.premieronline.net" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://ssl-tools.net/<wbr>mailservers/smtp.<wbr>premieronline.net</a>
          and
          <a href=3D"https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.com/?url=3Dsmtp.premieron=
line.net%3A587" target=3D"_blank">https://sslanalyzer.comodoca.<wbr>com/?ur=
l=3Dsmtp.premieronline.<wbr>net%3A587</a>).=C2=A0
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas?=C2=A0 Anyone else have this worki=
ng?
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><img style=3D"width:5.6979in;height:8.7187in=
" id=3D"m_2870181607026898664Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:part3.1829A642.780=
B2499@netwinsite.com" height=3D"837" border=3D"0" width=3D"547"><u></u><u><=
/u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Frank<u></u><u></u></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

</blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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