Group: netwin.surgemail
Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] Re: Surgemail stopped sending daily logs (Update)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 01:26:33 -0500


> In addition, another neat feature has been added 
> to Surgemail 41d in Sep 2009 that acts like a 
> temporary RBL.  If a spammer sends an email to a 
> SpamTrap address, the spammer's IP address is 
> immediately blocked for X minutes. (configurable).
> This prevents spammers from delivering to multiple 
> accounts... and DRASTICALLY reduces the spam load 
> of other accounts.
>
> I will provide more details in a separate email - 
> if anyone is interested.

Yes please.

Cheers,
-Slim
--
Jeroen C. "Slim" van Gelderen
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From: Webmaster@1usa.com [mailto:Webmaster@1usa.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 22:45
To: surgemail-list@netwinsite.com
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Re: Surgemail stopped sending daily logs
(Update)

Welcome to Surgemail Version 4q+    You are probably upgrading from
Surgemail version 3-something, right?
Please review the Surgemail Change History at
http://netwinsite.com/surgeweb/help/updates.htm to see all that has changed
since Version 3.
 
Although I cannot speak on Netwin's behalf, I can provide these details:
/surgemail/status.eml was worked on in Aug-Sept 2006, and revisited in Jun
2007.
/surgemail/status-html was created in surgemail version 4q between May
and June 2009, then became part of the mainstream code around Aug 2009.
The purpose of the coding is to allow POP3 and IMAP customers to manage
their Friends-Pending emails as well as their In-Box from Client software --
without having to log into Webmail.  With a few tweaks, even the most
'computer-challenged' customer can understand and manage their mailbox
protections... namely the Friends system.
 
If a user chooses to receive spam along with good emails in their In-Box,
the best Friends setting is "Apply friends list but don't block anything or
request confirmation."
For tighter control, "Request confirmation from unknown addresses."
Surgemail will build the list of Authorized Senders in the background, which
can become a Backup Address Book for the customer should the customer's
computer crash and not recover their .adb file
Rules in Mfilter.Rul still apply to all accounts on the server... and Admins
can still redirect-reject based on these server-wide rules.
In my opinion, the Challenge message should be sent out to ALL new senders. 
The purpose is to verify that the sender's address exists.  The pending
email is deleted if the sender's address was a fake... which further reduces
the number of spams in the customer's account.
Our Friends-Pending message says "Did you send me an email? If you did,
click here ||link||"
and the Confirm_by-Webpage is turned on, which requires the first-time
sender to type in 4 numbers on the web page.
On the other hand, if the customer sends an email to joe@Yayhoo first, then
joe's email address is also added to the list of Friends, and if joe
replies, joe's reply goes directly to the In-box.
 
To implement the Friends system on accounts that have been live for awhile,
the best setting is "Request confirmation if smite score is:" 40 or some
number fairly high.  This will begin to accumulate the email addresses based
on outgoing emails without interfering too much with incoming emails.  After
the customer has been around for a few months, then the setting can be
change to "Request confirmation from unknown addresses." -- which will keep
the spams from all the 'free' email services out of the In-Box.  At this
point, the customer will see only legit emails in their In-Box.  Our
customers here get NO spams in their In-Boxes.
 
If you would like to see the coding & verbage changes we've done on the
status-html.eml, please email off-list.
 
Testimonial:  We have an insurance company as a client who were receiving
300 spams per day in each account with their old ISP.  When setting up the
accounts here, the same email addresses were used - because all of their
business contacts had the email addresses.
They saw an immediate improvement.  They had a few questions in the first 60
days about the Friends system, and have loved getting no spams in their
mailboxes since.
We have since changed the account names from john@ to johnP@... and added
the old email address as an Alias.  Thus, their outbound emails update the
other person's Address Book with the new email address over time.  After 2
years, the alias to the old email address will be removed, which will reduce
the spam load.
 
====
In addition, another neat feature has been added to Surgemail 41d in Sep
2009 that acts like a temporary RBL.  If a spammer sends an email to a
SpamTrap address, the spammer's IP address is immediately blocked for X
minutes. (configurable).
This prevents spammers from delivering to multiple accounts... and
DRASTICALLY reduces the spam load of other accounts.
I will provide more details in a separate email - if anyone is interested.
 
BarryZ
1USA.Com
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Surgemail Support (Marijn)" <surgemail-support@netwinsite.com>
To: <surgemail-list@netwinsite.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Re: Surgemail stopped sending daily logs
(Update)

> 
> Hi
> 
> I gather some of you have been struggling with the "improvements" to 
> the spam reporting / daily status log reporting email...
> 
> For starters I want to apologise for possible annoyance and 
> inconvenience. It was not intended as a "major change of behaviour", 
> but as significantly improved functionality from "a status email" 
> whose usefulness was dubious due to its lack of organisation and 
> formatting, to a very useful feature for handling spam from your inbox 
> in your mail client without needing to login to any of surgemail's web 
> interfaces.
> 
> By having surgemail start to use this automatically everyone was 
> intended to start receiving the benefits of this even if the admin did 
> not explicitly go and enable settings for html status emails... for 
> some of you it has not worked that way.
> 
> I agree that the complete non sending of the status email if only the 
> spam held folder is in use is not the ideal behaviour and could have 
> been better managed on our part. Originally this was identified as not 
> affecting a significant number of users which is why it has not 
> received more attention sooner.
> 
> Anyway, this page should explain most of the situation, offers several 
> remedies, and shows you the features of the html status email.
> http://netwinsite.com/surgeweb/help/spam_config.htm
> 
> I'll also go and have a look at the source code to see what I can do 
> to improve the "non sending" issue if you are using the "Spam held" 
> folder only.
> 
> Let me know if you have further input and suggestions.
> 
> 
> Marijn